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Closure of St Augustine's Parish Hall
KingRat
#233 Posted : 24 September 2009 11:31:46(UTC)
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BryanDicker wrote:
And what about the good work that the priest has done?


Yes what about it?

Perhaps you could list some of the good things that have been done in the last 7 years?

QueenoftheSouth
#240 Posted : 24 September 2009 14:50:30(UTC)
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It will be a very short list.

However I know that there is a long, long list of organisations and annual fund raising events that have been caused to stop or been made 'homeless' over the past seven years. Anyone want that list?
etoc2001
#231 Posted : 24 September 2009 15:41:30(UTC)
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KingRat wrote:

Now that the Pope has announced his visit to England perhaps he may have time to help solve the problems at St Augustine's!

After all it was his predecessor that ordained the priest!




Ordained by one Pope, defrocked by another? :evil:
KingRat
#234 Posted : 06 October 2009 09:11:43(UTC)
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KingRat wrote:
BryanDicker wrote:
And what about the good work that the priest has done?


Yes what about it?

Perhaps you could list some of the good things that have been done in the last 7 years?



BryanDicker, what about thaose good thigs the priest has done, have you thought of any yet??


Morris Hickey
#235 Posted : 06 October 2009 10:37:55(UTC)
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KingRat wrote:
KingRat wrote:
BryanDicker wrote:
And what about the good work that the priest has done?


Yes what about it?

Perhaps you could list some of the good things that have been done in the last 7 years?



BryanDicker, what about thaose good thigs the priest has done, have you thought of any yet??





Oh, come on, Bryan. Even YOU must be able to think of ONE??????
etoc2001
#242 Posted : 07 October 2009 10:41:49(UTC)
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Look very hard - he might be watching and you wouldn't want to upset him;)
Benedict
#243 Posted : 09 October 2009 11:09:39(UTC)
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etoc2001 wrote:
Look very hard - he might be watching and you wouldn't want to upset him;)


I thought that everybody assumed the priest was watching all the time. It doesn't seem to be stopping the comments.
BryanDicker
#244 Posted : 09 October 2009 15:33:55(UTC)
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Sorry, I missed the comments completely, I have been a very busy man. He has been very supportive to his parisheners, at times where spiritual support have been needed.

There is one, cascade this down that others can make a list too!?!?
etoc2001
#245 Posted : 12 October 2009 13:43:49(UTC)
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BryanDicker wrote:
Sorry, I missed the comments completely, I have been a very busy man. He has been very supportive to his parisheners, at times where spiritual support have been needed.

There is one, cascade this down that others can make a list too!?!?


There are people out here who would disagree with you on that - lack of pastoral care is one of the core complaints that the bishop won't investigate but that is by the by, being supportive to parishoners is part of his job - not something that is above and beyond the call of duty.
redimanager
#251 Posted : 12 October 2009 13:46:44(UTC)
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Hello,

Before you post to this thread please ensure that your forum posts avoid statements that are flippant, repetitive, personal or slanderous. Please remember the forum terms and conditions when posting, take a look at the following link: http://www.redbridge.gov....aspx?g=posts&t=98.

Regards,

Redimanager
KingRat
#249 Posted : 12 October 2009 14:13:07(UTC)
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BryanDicker wrote:
Sorry, I missed the comments completely, I have been a very busy man. He has been very supportive to his parisheners, at times where spiritual support have been needed.

There is one, cascade this down that others can make a list too!?!?


Redimanager wrote:
Hello,

Before you post to this thread please ensure that your forum posts avoid statements that are flippant, repetitive, personal or slanderous. Please remember the forum terms and conditions when posting, take a look at the following link: http://www.redbridge.gov....aspx?g=posts&t=98.

Regards,

Redimanager



In asking this question I am in no way being “flippant, repetitive, personal or slanderous”

I wish to know how often BryanDicker attends St Augustine’s?

This will enable myself and all the other readers of this blog to consider how much weight to give his response.

I’m just trying to get at the facts.

As I have said in the past (sorry for being repetitive, but in this case it’s necessary) I attend St Augustine’s on a weekly basis, however I seem to have a different point of view than BryanDicker.

It is possible to have a different point of view than someone else without being personal or slanderous!

I trust this post complies with the forums terms & conditions & will be posted!
dopeyf
#252 Posted : 13 October 2009 14:57:12(UTC)
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I have a story about St Augustines, some 12 years ago, a good friend of mine (a Catholic but lapsed) died, I organised the funeral, including the attendance of someone from St Augustines,At the funeral, having played "there's no business like show business" about 6 times it was obvious we were not going to have a priest, the priest for the next funeral, fortunately Catholic, agreed to say the necessary words, leaving me to do the eulogy. My view of St Augustines has been clouded ever since, there is a happy bit to this story, that everyone agreed that the deceased was absolutely the centre of attention in death as in life, it could only happen to him.
etoc2001
#253 Posted : 13 October 2009 15:46:48(UTC)
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Long time for a reply, must be waiting for a sign ;)
BryanDicker
#254 Posted : 22 October 2009 16:31:40(UTC)
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My posts will indicate that I have not been on the forums everyday. However, I have moved away from the area, much to the disgust of a couple of "contributers". ( I would, however, point out I visit Gants Hill regularly as my mother and sister still lives there). I have a long history with St Augustines, and admittedly, had only a few dealings with the Priest in question. The last being the death of my father. He was good with us all (the family).

I would also point out that when I went to the church to get him for my father's last rites, the congregation at the rear of the church spoke highly of the priest. No one can please everybody.

My point is, and I am not giving back word, that too much negatives are being putforward. The priest is not all bad. It is a shame the original Parish Hall has been closed, and I agree that it was a good venue, however, the arguments I have heard is that an alternative venue has been built - on the school premisis. Yes, I have been in it during my volunteer work.

THe comments about the mosaic - My view is that it had looked dull for years, since I was a child, amd now it looks as though it is being cared for.

If I havent responded quickly - please send a polite PM as sometimes the thread is missed.

KingRat
#260 Posted : 22 October 2009 16:49:32(UTC)
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What has happened to my post of the 22nd?

First it was there then it was not!

Is this reverse censorship?

By the way Bryan the new "venue" as you put it was built only for the youth!

There is NO WHERE for anyone else.

You are welcome to your opinion however as you no longer live here you know nothing about the current needs of the parishioners.

Come back and speak to them now, you may be enlightened.



weggis
#255 Posted : 22 October 2009 17:07:10(UTC)
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BryanDicker wrote:
My posts will indicate that I have not been on the forums everyday.


No. Your posts indicate that you have not posted every day. Other users of this forum have no available evidence to determine how often any other user has accessed the forum whilst not logged in.
Morris Hickey
#256 Posted : 22 October 2009 21:33:54(UTC)
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weggis wrote:
BryanDicker wrote:
My posts will indicate that I have not been on the forums everyday.


No. Your posts indicate that you have not posted every day. Other users of this forum have no available evidence to determine how often any other user has accessed the forum whilst not logged in.


Quite right, Weggis. If you are not "logged in", then even a member shows only as one of the visitors. Can Redimanager enlighten us as to whether she has any means of knowing how often - and when - an individual member logs in?
knowsie
#257 Posted : 23 October 2009 10:32:02(UTC)
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Morris Hickey wrote:
Can Redimanager enlighten us as to whether she has any means of knowing how often - and when - an individual member logs in?

I'm not sure that such information will produce an accurate picture.

For example, my browser is set to keep me logged onto this forum and I keep the browser open virtually the time the PC is in use, whether or not I check the forum for new posts. Say I do this every two days, on average.

Now let's say that another user checks the forum five times a day but never logs in unless they wish to post a reply, and that their browser automatically logs them off at end of each session.

Obviously Redimanager's stats are going to be entirely different for these different patterns - but which will be accurate? One, both, or neither?
KingRat
#259 Posted : 23 October 2009 14:30:07(UTC)
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BryanDicker wrote:
My posts will indicate that I have not been on the forums everyday. However, I have moved away from the area, much to the disgust of a couple of "contributers". ( I would, however, point out I visit Gants Hill regularly as my mother and sister still lives there). I have a long history with St Augustines, and admittedly, had only a few dealings with the Priest in question. The last being the death of my father. He was good with us all (the family).

I would also point out that when I went to the church to get him for my father's last rites, the congregation at the rear of the church spoke highly of the priest. No one can please everybody.

My point is, and I am not giving back word, that too much negatives are being putforward. The priest is not all bad. It is a shame the original Parish Hall has been closed, and I agree that it was a good venue, however, the arguments I have heard is that an alternative venue has been built - on the school premisis. Yes, I have been in it during my volunteer work.

THe comments about the mosaic - My view is that it had looked dull for years, since I was a child, amd now it looks as though it is being cared for.

If I havent responded quickly - please send a polite PM as sometimes the thread is missed.



There is absolutely no "disgust" at you moving away from the area, we live a country where freedom of movement is allowed.

What we need to know is that anyone placing comments on any thread knows what they are talking about.

Hence the fact that you have moved away means that your comments on such matters should be weighted accordingly. What we really need to know is how frequently you visit the area/church?

I also believe that no one is "all bad" and that most people have some good points.

Once again I must take issue with you about the "alternative venue" if as you say you have been in there, you will know that it was built for the youth and handicapped of the parish and area. It is not suitable for any other use. In fact the priest will not hire the hall out for social functions. However he does allow certain groups (that are not associated with the Catholic Church) to use that hall!

I am involved with one of the youth based groups that are allowed (at present) to use the hall, hence I visit it weekly, so I think I know what I'm talking about, however I will let the users of this forum be the judge of that!

With regard the mosaic I will stick to my opinion that the money could have been better spent, it may look "nice" but how many people has it stopped from starving?
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