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THE WEATHER OUTSIDE IS FRIGHTFUL......
Morris Hickey
#1 Posted : 18 December 2010 23:17:00(UTC)
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During the last 2 to 3 days, with heavy snow forecast, both the Transport Secretary (Philip Hammond) and the London Mayor (Boris Johnson)have assured the public, respectively, that local councils and Transport for London (TfL) have ample stocks of salt to keep the principal roads clear of snow and ice.

The messages appear, however, to have failed to reach either Redbridge Council or TfL - despite the accuracy (for once) of the weather forecasts. All roads in Redbridge on Saturday 18 December, including bus routes, were in a disgraceful and dangerous condition with no sign of an ounce of salt or a spoonful of grit having been put on them. Many bus journeys were curtailed, and even some vehicles (notably on route 275 in Tomswood Hill) abandoned. Essex County Council performed just as badly in neighbouring Epping Forest District bringing hilly roads like Fencepiece Road and Manor Road to a standstill - with knock on effects for Redbridge bus routes.

Many council taxpayers actually receive precious little in return for their tax payments. The least they should be able to expect is safety on the principal road network on the last shopping weekend before Christmas. Redbridge Council's failure, and TfL's, need thorough, independent investigation followed by disciplinary action against any staff identified as responsible for failure that lies somewhere between criminal neglect and gross incompetence.
weggis
#2 Posted : 18 December 2010 23:49:09(UTC)
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Never mind shopping, what about the emergency services? Or have they closed KGH A&E already?

Photo of those abandoned buses in Tomswood Hill.



Credit Flesh is Grass via Barkingside 21.
Morris Hickey
#3 Posted : 19 December 2010 10:00:28(UTC)
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You're right Weggis. But Redbridge is a council that claims to support businesses. Some support!
Morris Hickey
#4 Posted : 19 December 2010 21:15:43(UTC)
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I have heard this evening from the relevant council director who tells me that he personally visited Redbridge yesterday morning and found no problems with the roads. There is, of course, a Redbridge (complete with a Redbridge Primary School!) between Southampton and Millbrook......
Morris Hickey
#5 Posted : 20 December 2010 19:11:59(UTC)
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So - Redimanager is displaying a sense of humour. A post about snow and ice has been moved to the heading of Hot Topics!!Wink Laugh BigGrin
weggis
#6 Posted : 21 December 2010 11:42:24(UTC)
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The snow is thawing and guess what? - POT HOLES!

on another thread
Pseudolus wrote:
Heaven forbid that Morris Hickey or weggis should run out of things to complain about!

We do NOT "complain", we merely draw attention to....
Seagull
#7 Posted : 21 December 2010 11:44:54(UTC)
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weggis wrote:
The snow is thawing and guess what? - POT HOLES!



With all the cut backs, I doubt if there's any money in the pot (*groan*) to repair them now.
knowsie
#8 Posted : 21 December 2010 19:28:01(UTC)
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I have been invited to visit the 'northern wastes' (as described by Morris and Weggis) tonight, so I thought I'd investigate the road situation.

Some roads will be gritted this evening but to find out which roads, I need to consult this "Master Plan"

Unfortunately, the link produces this error message:

The requested document is not available, or you don't have permission to view it.


Do we have to pay extra Council Tax to see this information? Cursing
Morris Hickey
#9 Posted : 21 December 2010 20:03:13(UTC)
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Is it possible, Knowswie, that the problem is with your computer's browser? I have no difficulty using either the link above or on the other blog (Redbridge Eye) where you tried it.

As to the "northern wastes", some belated work on Saturday evening, coupled with 72 hours of somewhat warmer weather with no more snow, have improved the situation. That does not detract from the fact, however, that both Essex County Council and Redbridge should have taken some preventive action well before taking remedial action on Saturday evening.
knowsie
#10 Posted : 22 December 2010 14:54:47(UTC)
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Morris Hickey wrote:
Is it possible, Knowswie, that the problem is with your computer's browser? I have no difficulty using either the link above or on the other blog (Redbridge Eye) where you tried it.

No, Morris. The message was generated from this website.

I tried it several times and cross checked the Redbridge Eye link with the 'official' link.

I have just checked it again and, as you said, it is working (I never knew there was another Cameron Road in Wanstead - which is in the schedule, whilst the one near me isn't ...) but the browser has not been shut down since last night and, obviously, neither has the PC ...
weggis
#11 Posted : 23 December 2010 17:03:56(UTC)
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You think it's bad here?

Not even 4x4 hummers can stand this:

http://uk.cars.yahoo.com...mps-4x4s-icy-hill-0.html
Morris Hickey
#14 Posted : 23 December 2010 17:09:25(UTC)
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Yes, Weggis - but I don't think Redbridge are respopnsible for salting and gritting where those pictures were taken.
Nell
#13 Posted : 31 December 2010 17:08:18(UTC)
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weggis wrote:
You think it's bad here?

Not even 4x4 hummers can stand this:

http://uk.cars.yahoo.com...mps-4x4s-icy-hill-0.html


I checked out this link and it set me to thinking about winter tyres and all the recent debate about their use.

I began to ponder: where do you keep them during the summer? Come to that, where do you keep your ordinary ones during the winter?Confused

In overcrowded SE England, we don't all have access to spacious garages or large garden sheds. Many of us live in multiple-car households with small rooms and minimal storage space. Two cars will produce eight "resting" tyres - what do you do with them?

Probably the result of too much seasonal imbibing but I've begun to wander round the house, contemplating which bits of furniture and equipment can be chucked out and replaced by a set of tyres.

I never did like that coffee table; let's replace it with a sheet of plate glass balanced on four tyres.

Two tyres stacked vertically might become very trendy casual seating when covered with a decorative throw ....

This time of year, they can be swathed in laurel, holly and mistletoe to become very decorative wreaths.

If your joists are up to it, tyres might be hung at different heights in the children's bedrooms to encourage healthy physical activity during this inclement weather. If you do this, it would be thoughtful to warn the neighbours about the possibility of over-excited offspring crashing outwards through the bedroom windows and landing on their property.

Pass me that bottle of red and I'll think up some more uses in a moment ...Laugh



annesevant
#15 Posted : 31 December 2010 22:01:48(UTC)
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Nell, you wrote your comments at five o'clock! Are you going to cope until midnight if you keep refuelling on bottles of red?
Happy New Year.
ps: the Christmas Bollards I cooked early this month are disappearing fast. We are on no 3!
Nell
#16 Posted : 01 January 2011 14:23:25(UTC)
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It was a late lunch, Anne! I was (almost) soberly tucked up with my teddy-bear and a hot-water bottle very soon after midnight so am very bright eyed and bushy tailed today.

Happy new year to you, too, and enjoy the bollards. (I got myself a bargain and - whisper it - bought a little stash of delectable supermarket puds at half price last week. They should keep me going until the SpringSmile )
Morris Hickey
#17 Posted : 05 February 2012 01:20:51(UTC)
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Fifty-nine weeks later and Redbridge fails again. When will they ever learn?
Pseudolus
#18 Posted : 06 February 2012 17:46:27(UTC)
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I know that Morris Hickey is obsessed with being negative but, once again, I must disagree with him.

I needed to go out on Sunday morning. The main roads were clear, the side roads passable, and the buses were running on time. Despite the snow, my Sunday morning shopping trip only took about five minutes longer than usual. This was much much better than last year and I think that everyone involved deserves praise for their efforts.
Morris Hickey
#19 Posted : 06 February 2012 18:14:59(UTC)
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And I know "pseudolus" is obsessed with shooting me down, but he was apparently very lucky. It wasn't like that here in the north east of the borough.

The dictionary definition of "pseudo" is an interesting one......
ashokdrathod
#20 Posted : 07 February 2012 13:46:04(UTC)
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Morris Hickey;13477 wrote:
And I know "pseudolus" is obsessed with shooting me down, but he was apparently very lucky. It wasn't like that here in the north east of the borough.

The dictionary definition of "pseudo" is an interesting one......


I have to agree with Morris. I have been out today (07/02/2012) around Barkingside area and from what I saw, it was self evident that there was no gritting in this part of the Borough (i.e. North East part). Perhaps, Pseudolus will regard my observation as being obsessed with negativity too, as well as many other residents around this part of the Borough, who has and may draw on the same observations on this matter! Mad Angry Cursing
weggis
#21 Posted : 08 February 2012 00:01:30(UTC)
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ashokdrathod @ 13:56pm wrote:
I have been out today (07/02/2012) around Barkingside area and from what I saw, it was self evident that there was no gritting in this part of the Borough (i.e. North East part).

Well, I've been out tonight. To Fairlop Waters for a meeting and then the New Fairlop Oak.

The roads had been gritted.
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