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ASO is coming - and so are the cowboys!
knowsie
#1 Posted : 06 March 2011 14:08:17(UTC)
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ASO? Analogue Switch Off, part of the DSO - Digital Switch Over - process which happens in Redbridge next year. ASO is particularly important because it marks the 'point of no return'.

As the ASO/DSO process has moved from area to area around the country, there is evidence to suggest that vast sums of money are being extorted from those most vulnerable - many, but by no means all, elderly - with the veiled threat that they will lose all TV reception if they do not do so.

This example of the kind of thing we can expect comes from Bill Wright, a long established aerial installer 'oop north' and acknowledged expert in his field:

In Yorkshire we have DSO in few months, so all the old people have had a fat and important looking envelope through the letter-box telling them about the help scheme. Although the thing is not worded to cause alarm, it is causing confusion and already the reports of outrageous rip-offs by aerial firms are coming in.

A friend rung me tonight to tell me that his mum and dad had paid £300 for a 'digital aerial', and did I think it was 'reasonable'? I did not, because they live 11 miles from Emley Moor near Barnsley and my memories of the area (I used to fix aerials for Barnsley DER) tell me that you can see the mast from their front door.

Apparently other people in the bungalow complex have also had 'very big' aerials fitted, all by the same local installer. Trading Standards will be informed.

An installer near here has been leafletting all the council bungalows in his village, offering 'digital aerials' at £150. The leaflet does not say that to continue without such an aerial will result in a blank screen at switch-off, but there's a clear implication.

The following happened over the weekend. Having received the fat and important looking envelope two elderly friends of my wife's decided to buy a new TV set. Being old and stubborn they didn't bother to discuss it with anyone. The existing TV set was analogue-only, but perfectly all right. The new TV set arrived and was installed by the delivery man for a fee. Having tuned-in the TV set he demonstrated five channels and said that if they wanted the extra digital channels they would need a new aerial. He then gave them the mobile phone number of an aerial installer and went on his way.

Only then did they ring my wife to ask her what she thought. She told them I'd pop round, which I did. Well, we both did. Little china cups and digestive biscuits...

The new telly was tuned for analogue, but pressing the A/D button gave a message to the effect that the set had never been tuned in. That little squirt from xxxxxxxx must have deliberately done an analogue tune only, so that his mate could go round and sell an aerial. I did the digital install and demonstrated the channels.

Of course the old pair were so wound up they were reluctant to let me escape without replacing the aerial! I had to promise that if they had any problems I would go back and fit a new one, despite the one they had being only two years old. If it hadn't been for the chance that they they were friends with my wife I think they would have shelled out for a totally unnecessary new aerial. They were gagging for it. I wanted to report all this to the head office of the shop, but the old pair pleaded with me not to. Anyway, I now have a nice Sony CRT set sitting in the shed. Any takers?

The government's attitude has always been that rip-offs are 'collateral damage' and are unavoidable. Could you all spread the word about this, warning any vulnerable people you know? It isn't just the elderly; the adult mentally handicapped living independently are also targets.

See http://www.paras.org.uk/

Bill


There is a government help scheme for those aged over 75 but the government's own web site isn't exactly helpful with what must be the smallest print of any web page on the internet! It does, in fact, contain a link to the scheme's own website but, I must confess, I missed it in the fine print and had to be pointed to it myself!

A 16 page leaflet from Help the Aged, now Age UK, who have recently released an 11 page updated version may still confuse many, who will become prime targets for anybody offering what appears to be an easy way out - at a (substantial) cost.

Nobody in this area who has reasonable reception of the analogue channels but has, so far, resisted the idea of upgrading to digital, should need to spend more than about £20 for a digital set top box and, despite what they might hear, There - Is - No - Such - Thing - As - A - Digital - Aerial, so they won't need one!

If you know any neighbours, friends or relatives who you think might fall into the vulnerable category, now might be the time to broach the subject - before the cowboys start rounding them up!
Morris Hickey
#2 Posted : 06 March 2011 16:30:53(UTC)
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Many thanks Knowsie - just the very kind of thing about which Redi should be warning us; oh, well......
knowsie
#3 Posted : 06 March 2011 19:49:13(UTC)
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Thank you Morris. I wonder how well versed Public Protection, or whatever their name is these days, in the many scams which will be - and, in some cases, already have been - perpetrated on the residents of Redbridge.

I despair every time I look up and see lots of cheap 'contract' aerials that point up, down or sideways rather than towards the transmitter with cables swaying loosely in the breeze and chafing on the tiles and brickwork.

It costs as much to put up a poor aerial badly as to erect a good one well, so why skimp on materials or workmanship? The incremental cost of buying good quality materials is small compared with the total price, yet a good installation might outlive a bad one several times over ...

I should point out that I have no vested interests here. I am retired and have no connections with 'the trade'. Also, I have been banned (by Mrs Knowsie!) from using ladders - which I've always hated, anyway - so you won't find me clamouring to get on your roof!
knowsie
#4 Posted : 04 December 2011 19:05:27(UTC)
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I see that DSO is covered mentioned on page 17 of the current issue of Redbridge Life under the heading Get ready for digital TV

It is a great pity that the article did not refer to this page on Redbridge i which gives a much better overview and, in particular, explains the switch over sequence correctly, which Redbridge Life does not!

Redbridge Life says "on 4 April 2012 the ‘analogue’ TV signal will be switched off in London", which is incorrect. Only one analogue channel, BBC2, will be switched off on that date. The remaining channels will not be switched off for another fortnight. This breathing space will give those viewers who have not already 'gone digital' the chance to catch up.

One thing that is not mentioned anywhere is that there will be a little game of 'Musical Channels" on 4th April which is bound to cause widespread confusion!

The national game plan is to switch off BBC2 analogue and replace it with the digital versions of the BBC channels. However, in London, BBC2 currently uses Channel 33, which will no longer used for TV broadcasting after switch over (it is one of the channels which will be sold by HMG, the so called 'Digital Dividend'). So, a little bit of juggling takes place.

The BBC2 analogue signal will be switched off as planned, but will promptly be replaced by ITV analogue! This is because the channel currently used by ITV (Ch.23) will continue to be used after switch over for the BBC digital signals, so they will replace ITV analogue on 4th April!

Is it surprising that people get confused by the Digital Switch Over process?

One thing that Redbridge Life does stress is that there is no such thing as a digital aerial - so don't get conned by anybody who tries to sell you one!

If you have any doubts on this score, consider this:

The Crystal Palace transmitter covers not only London but a large part of the surrounding area. Its coverage area is mainly restricted by geographical features such as the Chilterns and the South Downs - all a very long way from Redbridge! In fact, Redbridge is only about 18km/11 miles from the Crystal Palace mast, so it's pretty much on our doorstep and you don't need a massive 'fringe' aerial.

Anybody who has already 'gone digital' and has less than perfect reception, should bear in mind that, up until now, the digital transmissions have been at low power. Wait until switch over, when the transmission power will increase dramatically, and review the situation then.
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