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Poll - does Ilford Lane need more takeaways?
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I don't think any area of Ilford South requires a takeway, for the most part they attract rats and also encourage youths (who are inclined to, albeit a small percentage as most teenagers are a pleasure) to congregate and for the most part engage in anti social behaviour. Chadwell Heath also suffers from an overkill of fast food shops, I hope Redbridge (aswell as LBBD) Council are more stringent on planning / licenses in future.
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Hi Hunsa - I think it is a much bigger question than that. I think the state of all our high streets need to be looked at in terms of parking, variety of shops, crime, etc. I'd definitely love to see much more variety of food around the borough!
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Londonkal I agree wiith you 100% . We need quality decent restaurant which are open for families and not just low quality chicken shops in the borough.
People need to be educated to use bins or fine them when they throw out the bones and boxes on the road. Where are all the borough enforcement officers are they doing their job from behind their desks??. We need high profile enforcement not just for a photo shoot for councillors
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SIMPLE ANSWER - NO MORE TAKEAWAY LICENCES AND ENFORCEMENT OF ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY ON LITTER DROPPERS
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Hunsa - Maybe we need a top ten list of restaurants in Redbridge. I would love to see more family restaurants aswell!
Ahai - Although I think we have to address litter and the problems it leads to, I also think we need to understand why there is a huge demand for chicken shops. Like everyone else these shop owners are working silly hours to earn a living, plus add sweltering heat of the kitchen, daily abuse from customers and then still choosing this option over opening a family restaurant.
Quality family restaurants are what we all want in the Borough but what incentive is there for someone starting a business to choose a nice sit down restaurant over a take away. I would actually start the debate by asking about business support in the Borough and how this can be used to encourage more variety in the Borough.
Khalid
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I'm struggling to think of two let alone 10.
However there are a few good pub which offer good food in the north of the borough. I don't think I can name these here and you don't have to be drinker to go to these family orientated pubs. on another point we do need to enforce opening hours on chicken shops as alot of them breach their conditons of the planning consent. Zero tolerance is the way forward.
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Be happy to hear the two Hunsa. Thats a start at least :)
But if we ever did Zero tolerance it would have to be across the board and not just restaurants but also officials.
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And let's not all forget the parking shortages.
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LondonKal, it is because chicken restaurants are cheaper to run. Most owners as you say are employing migrants from other countries to work behind the counter and so not necessarily working the hours themselves. The food they serve is cheaper to produce and can be marked up so that each unit sold can still be quite profitable. Costs are kept down as they use the cheapest poultry they can get then deep fry it and they pay the exact minimum wage no higher.
There popularity from consumers is mainly from teenagers and people coming from nightclubs / pubs who want something tasty / quick. They attract vermin, there premises are often ugly / detract from shopping parades and they also contribute to the UKs rising obesity levels.
Do we really want these shops adorning our high streets, of course, a few here and there are acceptable - this is a free country; but the amount we have now is beyond belief.
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I am in total agreement with the last comment there are far too many chicken shops. In Seven Kings we have about 20 on 2 roads and each one is open until 3am. Again the Council permits this. This Council will not do anything to improve the situation in the South of Redbridge where all of these chicken shops exist and therefore I hope the next Council leadership will do something positive to remove these parasites from our high street,
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Caoimghin, No idea about employing migrants. I didn't say that.
I really don't have an issue addressing anything that needs to be addressed in the borough especially if something is causing litter or vermin. My complaint is I feel that we seem to do things as isolated actions when we should of course be looking at the high level strategy for business in the borough. What does our corporate strategy and vision say about our high streets? and isn't that the guidance whoever approves planning uses to decide?
Ahai are you saying 20 on Seven Kings High Road and Ilford Lane combined? or just 20 in Seven Kings?
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Do we really need late chicken shops open till 5 am?. its only going to lead to trouble on streets, stabbings, litter, loss of sleep for local residents. The people granting thr licennces don't have to put up with the noiser etc but the local residents do. So take the poor residents into accounbt particularly now that there are more flats being built in town centres. This sort of use is not going to add to the quality of life. If shops have to put up security shutters to protet staff shurely this tell you staight away what is going to happen
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I think you're referring to the licence for "Dixy chicken", I must say I agree with Cllr Filly Maravala on this. Why does a chicken shop need to open so late? Plus, the Ilford Recorder mentioned it has had allot of Anti-SOcial behaviour from teenagers in the past. A shop like this merely encourages youths to congregate in the early hours and get into trouble.
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..... and, believe it or not, the problems are as bad in the "north" of the borough!!! Barkingside High Street, Gants Hill, Snakes Lane East, George Lane. The filth along the gutters, and at bus stops just 5 yards from a rubbish bin, is outrageous. I have urged street sweeping managers over many years to have a late night sweep, but I could have saved my breath. The answer has always been that it is done the next day. Begs the question that by that time the wind will have taken much of it into nearby residential streets that are swept once a week, if at all.
COULD DO BETTER.
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the simple answer to the problem is not grant such consents in the first place. I can't see these type of establishments providing a service for families but for people high on alcohol or drugs.
If they are to open longer hours then the business rates should be doubled or higher as well as the charge for rubbish collection and dealing with the aftermath.
Ps have youy noticed how many large green commercial bins are now stored on public highways around the town centre and by the subway in ilford lane which cause obstruions as well as the piles of commercial rubbish around them. Have premises using such bins got licences to store this on the public highway why were they made to make provsions on the premises as part of the planning consent? so much for street scene. some joker in cleansing is having a laugh at the public expence and making the private operator very rich.
I thought everyone including businesses were meant to keep their rubbish on their own premises until collection. Something is going very badly wrong in this borough.
Who are the faceless people who are turning a blind eye to these problems? The borough residnets expect and demand better service from their taxes
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