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gomera
#1 Posted : 19 February 2008 17:04:10(UTC)
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Hello,

Ive just read the news story on Redbridge i about two local film makers who have produced and directed a film on Ilford.

I followed the BBC link and viewed it there. I am really impressed with what they have done, there is so much Ilford / South of the borough 'bashing' on this site.

Its great to see two young talented people take pride in the area they are from and create art which is positive. I live in Ilford. Community spirit and pride does exisit here.

I hope this thread generates healthy and lively discussion :d

http://www.redbridge.gov...t_news/ilford_film.aspx

http://www.bbc.co.uk/lon...film_video_feature.shtml
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Seagull
#2 Posted : 19 February 2008 18:04:39(UTC)
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I hope they realise that most of those personalised number plates are completely illegal before they start glorifying them.
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Morris Hickey
#5 Posted : 19 February 2008 21:48:00(UTC)
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Do the authorities bother? The police do not seem to do so.
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gomera
#6 Posted : 19 February 2008 22:04:24(UTC)
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Glorifying personal number plates?! Is that your only comment? Astonishing.

I doubt very much the new film is about glorifying illegal personal number plates, you are missing the point.
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gomera
#8 Posted : 19 February 2008 22:27:47(UTC)
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I cannot believe the negative attitude on here. The discussion is not about illegal number plates it's about a film which has been made about ILFORD. Its quite clear the posters on here so far have not viewed the film, or have properly read the news item, and want to turn this thread into something completely unrelated.
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Morris Hickey
#9 Posted : 19 February 2008 23:44:14(UTC)
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I have tried watching it but am unable to do so. Does it compare the very pleasant Ilford of 50 years ago with the slum that it is now?
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Daniel Johnston
#10 Posted : 20 February 2008 08:26:02(UTC)
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I also am having trouble getting the picture, but the audio comes through fine - kind of like Derek Jarman's 'Blue'! It's interesting. It's about the experiences that immigrants have had coming into and living in Ilford over the last 30 or 40 years. It would be interesting to explore this further as Ilford is based on a major influx of people since around 1870 and so we are all refugees coming from somewhere and all have our own story to tell.

It would be nice to see more exploration of Ilford and Redbridge's activity and culture. I always think that there is a world going on beneath our noses, that if we don't stop to look for, we will miss and at our loss. All of the best cultural movements from the Impressionists to the Beatles happened despite the early antipathy of people around.
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CiaranMitchell
#11 Posted : 20 February 2008 09:40:49(UTC)
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I saw this film. Whilst it was good to see two young film makers from the borough do well and create something. I personally was dissapointed as it seemed to be Asian-centric. There was no mention of the Cockneys that used to stretch along Ilford Lane, or the large Irish or Jewish populations the borough had.
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Seagull
#7 Posted : 20 February 2008 13:30:30(UTC)
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gomera wrote:
Glorifying personal number plates?! Is that your only comment? Astonishing.

I doubt very much the new film is about glorifying illegal personal number plates, you are missing the point.


Seeing as I couldn't view the film about Ilford, I went on to read the item on illegal number plates.

Why make a film about something that is illegal? What will the next film be about, taking drugs?

Illegal is illegal in my book. Why condone law breaking?
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annesevant
#13 Posted : 20 February 2008 15:56:10(UTC)
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You have to download real player before you can view the film. (It's free.)
If you want to be informed, do it!
annesevant
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nodz
#14 Posted : 21 February 2008 09:51:00(UTC)
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Personailsed number plates are not illegal - for your ref http://www.dvlaregistrations.co.uk/home/ they are actually sold by the DVLA
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nodz
#19 Posted : 21 February 2008 10:01:54(UTC)
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'Ilford' is a short film - I don't think it would be able to cover the demographic changes that have occured in the borough during the last 50 years. But if you really do want to see a film about how Ilford was 50/60 years ago, watch a film aptly entitled "Ilford" made about 50 years ago and held in the local archive - def food for thought!

I think we should be proud of the fresh talent emerging in our local area and supporting them or providing constructive criticism rather than out right dismissing them.
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CiaranMitchell
#21 Posted : 21 February 2008 12:14:01(UTC)
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The people the reporters spoke to had arrived in Ilford as long ago as 40 years ago. There were many Irish or Jewish people that also came to the borough at that time. There was no mention of this very large demographic. Of course you cannot appease everyone but it would be nice to cast your net as widely as possible.
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wasim
#22 Posted : 21 February 2008 15:28:12(UTC)
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When I watched this film I thought it was great as these two young filmmakers are attempting to combat ill-feeling towards the town of Ilford and for many Ilford is home and is still a great place to live! A personal thumbs up from me.

And as for the second line of discussion, where was the word 'illegal' mentioned anywhere in the article, talk about jumping to their own conclusions, i say we wait and see what exactly the new film is about before dismissing it altogether.

Well done Shazia and Sadia, looking forward to 'PL4TE5'!
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Sadia Ur-Rehman
#15 Posted : 21 February 2008 21:25:05(UTC)
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Hi All,

I am one half of the filmmaking duo that has directed 'Ilford' and the forthcoming short film 'PL4TE5'. I am heartened by the response the film has generated so far, whether it's positive or negative, you guys are out there watching it!
After reading the discussion so far, I feel inclined to comment, and I am sure my sister will probably add her thoughts too.

Our film 'Ilford' attempts to present the diversity of the town, its people, cultures and many languages. It is just under 10 minutes and we have endeavoured to make it as inclusive as possible in that 10 minutes. I disagree with the comment that is 'Asian-centric', the film engages and documents people's journeys from Bosnia, Jamaica, India, Kenya, Tanzania to Ilford. It also features Brenda, a lovely lady in her late seventies who has spent her whole life in Ilford and has therefore been witness to the changes it has undergone. Lastly Shahida's parents are from Pakistan but she was born and brought up in Ilford. That's 7 short stories in 10 minutes. Quite a tall order I'd say!

My sister and I were also born and brought up in Ilford, we have shared a happy childhood and life here, and like many people it is our home. The film is an effort to celebrate the things that are positive about this town. And I believe that the fact that people from such a wide variety of cultural backgrounds and leanings can co exist here is what makes Ilford what it is today.


nodz wrote:
Personailsed number plates are not illegal - for your ref http://www.dvlaregistrations.co.uk/home/ they are actually sold by the DVLA


In regards to the comment posted by Nodz. Nodz is correct in imparting the fact that personalised number plates are sold by DVLA. DVLA - (the Government body responsible for the licensing and registration of vehicles) actually makes an absolute fortune each year through these sales since 1989. This has made owning a personalised number plate no longer such an exclusivity.

Living in Ilford, you are bound to notice cars with outlandish statements on number plates. It seems to be part of an interesting phenomena and the film 'PL4TE5' attempts to explore and get behind this mindset. It is in no way 'glorifying illegal personal number plates'.
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londonkal
#24 Posted : 22 February 2008 02:27:43(UTC)
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Excellent stuff Sadia/Shazia. I saw this on the BBC site and loved it!! 8)
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annesevant
#25 Posted : 22 February 2008 08:58:41(UTC)
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Hi Sadia,
Your intervention in the redbridge i is a Gold Star point in the web-site. You present a very balanced view of the comments you received. You open a debate.
I have watched the film and it seems that, mostly, you say thank you to Ilford for welcoming your parents and others who are participating in the film and you highlight the positive points as well as mentioning some problems.
annesevant
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thomasg
#3 Posted : 28 July 2008 07:16:45(UTC)
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Seagull wrote:

I hope they realise that most of those personalised number plates are completely illegal before they start glorifying them.



Look what they`ve done, the film? Do you think that really matters?
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londonkal
#4 Posted : 28 July 2008 17:46:13(UTC)
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thomasg wrote:
Seagull wrote:

I hope they realise that most of those personalised number plates are completely illegal before they start glorifying them.



Look what they`ve done, the film? Do you think that really matters?


I agree with Thomas - If we have such talent in the borough we should be thinking how we get a hundred more film-makers trained up in Redbridge.
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thomasg
#28 Posted : 29 July 2008 08:38:50(UTC)
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Maybe we ought to be seeing some workshops in the summer?
Where kids can learn filming techniques, editting, acting e.t.c
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