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weggis
#110 Posted : 20 March 2009 17:11:45(UTC)
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Posts: 564
Location: Redbridge Eye
Your contributions would be worthwhile if they were practical and thought through.

Your suggestion is to use the Electoral Register, which is a list of electors. Some addresses may not be included as the occupants may not be eligible to vote but do pay Council Tax. Besides the Electoral Register is ONLY allowed to be used for the lawful and legitimate purposes for which it is created, [the conduct of elections] and as specified on its registration with the Information Commissioner s Office.

Apart from that the system will have been designed for its purpose and would almost certainly require major modifications [££££s] to accommodate the processing you suggest, and then there is the small matter of collecting and maintaining the data, all of which would require Officer time [£££££s]. As you quite rightly point out not everyone has access to the Interwebby so a manual system would be necessary.

Then there is the extra load placed on the delivery agent who now has to consult a list while doing their round and decide which letterbox gets which publications. The job is therefore more complex, requires extra skills and the round would take longer. The delivery company would no doubt charge the Council more for such a personalised service.
dopeyf
#116 Posted : 21 March 2009 13:50:19(UTC)
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The whole point is being missed, we would be better off saving the now £150,000 plus for Redbridge Life, which has now been admitted, is almost entirely the mouthpiece of the Cabinet, not a Newsletter for the Borough viz: no reports on Council Meetings, no reports on the problems of the Borough, eg swimming pools etc. This should be published by Mills and Boon, everything in the garden is rosy,and there is always a happy ending.

However, to put some minds at rest – taken from the National Statistics Office


In 2008, 16 million households in Great Britain (65 per cent) had Internet access. This is an increase of just over 1 million households (7 per cent) over the last year and 5 million households (46 per cent) since 2002. Estimates for Great Britain are provided to give a time series, as UK estimates are not available prior to 2006.

Almost 16.5 million (65 per cent) UK households including Northern Ireland had access to the Internet. This was an increase of 1.2 million households (8 per cent) since 2007. The region with the highest level of access was the South East with 74 per cent. The region with the lowest access level was the North East with 54 per cent.

Fifty-six per cent of all UK households had a broadband connection in 2008, up from 51 per cent in 2007.

Adults under 70 years of age who had a degree or equivalent qualification were most likely to have access to the Internet in their home, at 93 per cent. Those individuals who had no formal qualifications, were least likely to have an Internet connection in their home at 56 per cent.



In the Southeast 74% of HOUSEHOLDS had internet access, which means some 85-90% of people could read it on line IF they so desired. Anyone else could collect or have it collected from Council Offices, Libraries, newsagents or even Estate Agents.

We would be better off following the Mayor of London’s example and spending the money on something better, i.e Council Webcasting and improvement of the parks.

This could be the first popular decision of the new Cabinet
annesevant
#117 Posted : 25 March 2009 06:56:46(UTC)
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Posts: 975
[We would be better off following the Mayor of London’s example and spending the money on something better, i.e Council Webcasting and improvement of the parks.
This could be the first popular decision of the new Cabinet.]

This is the last statement of Dopeyf for justifying stopping a blanket delivery of the redbridge life to every household in the borough.
This is a brilliant reason to act sensibly whilst saving face.
Yesterday, I was watching Cabinet (sad, I know!) and the deputy-leader used the credit crunch as a compounding cause to her dire financial straits as far as providing a much needed leisure centre (the word swimming pool was not used) to the deserving population of Reddbridge. (My words, not hers. I would love to have her script but I know this is unlikely!)
So, the credit crunch might absolve them of having decided to throw away good money in producing so many paper copies of their propaganda Redbridge Life!
annesevant



BryanDicker
#118 Posted : 25 March 2009 14:21:10(UTC)
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And how much was the Big Con versation??

The point is RL is meant to be a means of communicating with the residents of LBR (of which my family are). The issues are
1) Its content
2) How and where RL is distributed.

Obviously point 1 cannot be looked into using every house hold - it would be too expensive and too many people to question, so why not utilise this site for that job. Its already established.

2) Maybe the "major" contributors like to put forward a proposal. If the RL is a means of communicating with LBR, the the abolishment of RL is not the way.
weggis
#119 Posted : 25 March 2009 16:40:32(UTC)
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Location: Redbridge Eye
The problem with Redbridge Life is that it is produced and edited in-house. Its editorial policy is to portray Redbridge as some sort of glossy Utopia. It will never report instances of council failure, (word removed)-ups or scandal.

It is not, and can never be, objective and impartial, which is why I, and others interested in local affairs, prefer the local newspapers and blog sites.

It also suffers from the problem of being monthly and often its “news” items have already been covered by other media weeks earlier, which makes it look out of touch and out of date, which of course it is.

On the issue of notices of events, the council could make much better use of the Notice Boards dotted around the borough, and provided at our expense, which are largely either empty or so out of date that one wonders why they bothered.

It is, as Anne says, a propaganda sheet, and I for one, do not wish my taxes to be wasted on it. I would much rather the revenue saved on scrapping this useless piece of mumbo jumbo on topping up the Care budget that was so ruthlessly cut last year.

There are priorities and Priorities.
BryanDicker
#120 Posted : 07 April 2009 10:26:15(UTC)
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weggis wrote:
The problem with Redbridge Life is that it is produced and edited in-house. Its editorial policy is to portray Redbridge as some sort of glossy Utopia. It will never report instances of council failure, (word removed)-ups or scandal.

It is not, and can never be, objective and impartial, which is why I, and others interested in local affairs, prefer the local newspapers and blog sites.

It also suffers from the problem of being monthly and often its “news” items have already been covered by other media weeks earlier, which makes it look out of touch and out of date, which of course it is.

On the issue of notices of events, the council could make much better use of the Notice Boards dotted around the borough, and provided at our expense, which are largely either empty or so out of date that one wonders why they bothered.

It is, as Anne says, a propaganda sheet, and I for one, do not wish my taxes to be wasted on it. I would much rather the revenue saved on scrapping this useless piece of mumbo jumbo on topping up the Care budget that was so ruthlessly cut last year.

There are priorities and Priorities.


East Riding news, and papers from other councils are paid for through adverts. Completely free to the tax payer and actually has usefull Information not just from the ruling council, but the opposition, and also news ABOUT the residents. Of course, I am more interested in things going on in the Barkingside Ward, as well as my own. It would be nice to have a happy median.
weggis
#123 Posted : 07 April 2009 23:26:22(UTC)
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Location: Redbridge Eye
Hmmmm, that would deal with the cost to taxpayer issue. But, what added value would such a publication provide? What would be it’s journalistic edge and how would it differentiate itself from existing publications – Yellow Advertiser, Redbridge Post, Ilford Recorder and Wanstead & Woodford Guardian?
BryanDicker
#124 Posted : 08 April 2009 12:30:03(UTC)
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weggis wrote:
Hmmmm, that would deal with the cost to taxpayer issue. But, what added value would such a publication provide? What would be it’s journalistic edge and how would it differentiate itself from existing publications – Yellow Advertiser, Redbridge Post, Ilford Recorder and Wanstead & Woodford Guardian?


Items not reported by the papers you have quoted, and further publish consultations etc etc!
dopeyf
#125 Posted : 09 April 2009 01:40:14(UTC)
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BryanDicker wrote:
weggis wrote:
Hmmmm, that would deal with the cost to taxpayer issue. But, what added value would such a publication provide? What would be it’s journalistic edge and how would it differentiate itself from existing publications – Yellow Advertiser, Redbridge Post, Ilford Recorder and Wanstead & Woodford Guardian?


Items not reported by the papers you have quoted, and further publish consultations etc etc!

To take this point first, exactly the reverse is true, Redbridge Life has failed to report, exactly the many things that the local papers DO report, i.e the allotments problem, Jaguars, Swimming Pools, the possible problem with Hainault Youth Centre, etc etc. Oh and not to forget the £70million difference between the paper and online version of "You Choose". As we know from a previous post 74% of Households i.e some 85 to 90% of people have internet access so any consultations can be done on line as was most of "You Choose" it would cost almost nothing to use local noticeboards and once people know they are regularly
updated would look to see what is going on, perhaps they should be electronic with continuous updates. Perhaps consider advertising on all the Screens in shopping malls, post offices etc. but only when there is something to say.

The point about advertising, Redbridge Life was originally meant to cost a net £38,000 per year, according to Officers Reports to Cabinet, Officers have completely failed to live up to their own forecasts of advertising revenue, and over the period of Redbridge Life have cost Redbridge Council tax payers over £0.5 million pounds, The Cabinet and sucessive members for Communications have completely failed to exercise their management and policy functions to rectify or impose some semblance of control on this monster, which is more akin to a Mills and Boon novel, where everything in the garden is rosy and the hero and heroine walk arm in arm into the sunset.

Clear the streets and recycling bins of Redbridge Life (with thanks to Newbie for the plagarism)

Morris Hickey
#126 Posted : 09 April 2009 11:42:20(UTC)
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Joined: 06/06/2007(UTC)
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Location: Too close to Redbridge-i censorship
Walking into the sunset? No chance of walking off into total obscuity then?
darel
#127 Posted : 09 April 2009 12:24:13(UTC)
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Joined: 25/07/2007(UTC)
Posts: 66
I think it's true that the council need a way to communicate items of interest to local people who do not access such things as this website or the local newspapers, but a simple, mono, single sheet of A4 when and if neccessary, would, I think, suffice.
The Redbridge life is expensive and not particularly relevant at times. I can think of no easy way to salvage it, better for the council to pay for a one page advert every week in the papers to announce any propaganda.
TibbyToes
#128 Posted : 22 April 2009 13:58:27(UTC)
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This is a complete waste of taxpayers money and, finding that my council tax has just shot up by nearly £20 per month, I think the least they can do is spend our cash on something more worthwhile.
crazycat
#129 Posted : 22 April 2009 15:35:41(UTC)
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I has two copies of RL posted through my letterbox to be honest I do not want any its a complete waste of money.
KingRat
#130 Posted : 22 April 2009 16:37:57(UTC)
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crazycat wrote:
I has two copies of RL posted through my letterbox to be honest I do not want any its a complete waste of money.


You can always stick it in your recycling bin!


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