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zseth
#1 Posted : 15 April 2009 10:33:25(UTC)
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Dear All,

I live on Balfour road and i am pretty sure many of you share the same concerns in your roads, Over the years there has been a dreadful amount of depreciation in standards of houses especially drive ways, by this i do not mean everyone should have block paving done and fancy expensive decor (desperate housewives style), i mean to tidy the area up and make the street look more pleasant. it would only take each household 1 hour of their time to get rid of the rubbish and junk, give the driveway a good sweep and wash and if needs be some minor attention in the form of DIY. I am surprised the council has not enforced such action or carried out any grant schemes (correct me if i am wrong) in aid of this.

Most of the drives in Balfour road are damaged, have parts of walls missing and look disgraceful - i know the problem is because most of these houses are rented out and "actual" homeowners hardly live here, but it would be nice to see some care being taken to stop the once known as 'prestigious' area become a derelict looking slum

please share your views
vfmctax
#2 Posted : 15 April 2009 17:10:03(UTC)
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zseth wrote:
Dear All,

I am surprised the council has not enforced such action or carried out any grant schemes (correct me if i am wrong) in aid of this.



have you reported these properties as the council will only issue enforcement notices if you (the aggrieved party) initiate the process.

i don't see why a property owner should be given taxpayers money to maintain an individual's private property.
zubairseth
#3 Posted : 22 April 2009 11:12:18(UTC)
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I have not reported such properties as yet, at this point i was only mentioning how i find these areas to be so untidy etc, as for taxpayers money to tidy properties up, i meant to say regeneration projects like forest gate where all the properties look fresh and tidy as leaving this to owners will never work?

thanks
crazycat
#4 Posted : 22 April 2009 15:28:54(UTC)
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Maybe the problem is most of the properties are rented and people just do not care anymore.
annesevant
#5 Posted : 23 April 2009 08:23:54(UTC)
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I read in a free newspaper yesterday, The Post, if I remember well, that a massive clearing operation is on-going in Seven Kings and that people are free to chuck out whatever accumulated rubbish in their abodes they want to get rid of and the council takes it no question asked.
There is a wish that once the area is tidy the residents will want to keep it that way.
I am not commenting because I would then have to write an essay.
However, if published, that will make me move from 666 to 667! (From :evil: to ...?)
annesevant
etoc2001
#6 Posted : 23 April 2009 10:15:08(UTC)
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You want to move from 666 to 777 as the principal [if I understand it correctly] is that 777 represents God [or the Christian trinity at least]. Legend has it that Lucifer's problem wasn't that he was evil per se but that he was just not powerful enough to be God hence 666 instead of 777.
darel
#7 Posted : 23 April 2009 11:36:28(UTC)
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"The neighbour of the beast" ? Anne. I always wondered about that, since in most streets the neighbour of the beast would be 668 (or 664) rather than 667, but I won't let logic get in the way of a good line.
annesevant
#8 Posted : 23 April 2009 12:19:37(UTC)
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"The neighbour of the beast" ?
Etoc2001! You don't know how true your are : I am the long suffering ''neighbour of the beast'', the beast being a beautiful dog blessed with the loudest bark you can imagine, whose owners, presumably are deaf or immune!
Now I am (hopefully) moving to 668, the same might be still true and I will have to aim for 669 as quick as poss !
annesevant:d
knowsie
#9 Posted : 23 April 2009 14:55:43(UTC)
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Strangely enough, I came across a reference to 666 yesterday in a completely unrelated search for something else.

Using every symbol except M in descending order gives the beast number in roman numerals ... DCLXVI ... :o
zubairseth
#10 Posted : 24 April 2009 10:07:09(UTC)
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dont mean to throw the spanner in - but il throw the spanner in :roll:

we are losing topic here lol
annesevant
#11 Posted : 30 April 2009 14:01:52(UTC)
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we are losing topic here lol , says zubairseth, and that's what we do! (And we give and receive stick!)

Anyway, on the same-ish lines as zubairseth, I have been complaining somewhere(?) about extended dropped kerbs allowing families to cram cars in the front garden and then park further cars across their own drives and everybody says that it is acceptable.
However at the area 4 meeting last night, I heard that if you park across somebody's extended drive (blocking access in or out) you could receive (legally) a parking ticket.
How do the people issuing the parking ticket know that the car parked on the road, across the drive, belongs to an outsider instead of family or friend?
Would they go to the trouble of finding out?
Unfortunately, our councillors are prevented from answering this (in their capacity as councillors, that is) so would somebody from the council clarify?
annesevant


VerlorenHoop
#12 Posted : 30 April 2009 18:09:09(UTC)
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As far as I know, and this is the case where I live, the parts of the road where the dropped kerb exist are not covered by resident's parking bays, and indeed have yellow lines, so even if the person who owns the property parks in front of their house they should get a ticket. I thought the whole point of off-street parking was to render your car safer in that it's less likely to be hit by a passing car. These people can't have their cake and eat it too.
moderator8
#13 Posted : 01 May 2009 08:10:30(UTC)
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Hi Annesevant, please see response below from Parking Management:

The Council has powers to issue a Penalty Charge Notice to a vehicle obstructing an authorised carriageway crossing. This has to be on complaint of the resident, tenant, occupier of the premises affected. They are asked to sign a prepared short statement confirming this and they are being obstructed. Also it is the decision of the Civil Enforcement Officer on site whether a Notice will be issued. Under stated case law usually the wheels of the offending vehicle have to be over the carriageway crossing.

The public can call 020 8708 3636 Monday to Friday 8.30 am to 5 pm and outside those hours 020 8708 5211.

The Council can issue a Penalty Charge Notice to any vehicle obstructing a dropped kerb allowing pedestrian, wheelchair access without complaint.
Should anyone require further details they can check out the Council's parking webpages or call Parking Management on 020 8708 3636.

Regards

Moderator8
annesevant
#14 Posted : 01 May 2009 15:04:46(UTC)
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Moderator8, you are a star.
I am not going to test the situation by annoying a resident and parking along a dropped kerb but, it would appear that the rules are quite complex. (Would the complaining member of the public have to prove that they are resident at the property?)
When unspoken rules of civil behaviour are broken it is very difficult to think of every single little detail.
annesevant.
ps: moderator8 is very busy, are there any other moderators ?
crazycat
#15 Posted : 01 May 2009 23:44:30(UTC)
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0208 708 3636 is a recorded message, it is very rare to get to speak to a person, maybe better to e-mail them.
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